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Next Generation Nissan GT-R Set for 2018 and 2013 GT-R Facelift

Contrary to Earlier Reports and Beliefs, the Nissan GT-R Will See a Second Generation in 2018

Information on the 2013 Nissan GT-R Facelift is Almost as Exciting as that providing proof of the next generation Nissan GT-R hitting the streets in 2018

For the last few years the common belief in the automotive world had been that the Nissan GT-R as we currently knew it would be a single generational vehicle. The reviews and media coverage for the vehicle have always been astoundingly positive–few people anywhere will deny it its place amongst the planet’s elite vehicle list–but the sales haven’t always matched. The price tag and Nissan badging combination have clearly turned away some would-be consumers, and, this has lead many to speculate that this generation of GT-R, especially with increased fuel restrictions coming up, would never see a complete generational renovation Stateside. Thankfully, a report released this past week not only refutes that, it provides a solid and reasonable timeline for the vehicle’s future.

Seeing a facelift this year, and almost certainly continuing to receive small and interesting upgrade touches until the next generation is released, the real news is that in 2018 the car will be completely revamped from ground up. First confirmed by Edmunds via Nissan’s corporate PR entity, multiple reputable news sources have come out to verify the same information. Nissan had originally intended for the Nissan GT-R to see its second generation as early as 2015, but the departure of GT-R R&D head and chief engineer, Kazutoshi Mizuno, left the company in a bit of a difficult position. Without the man who had made the GT-R the giant-slayer we all know it as today its future had seemed uncertain. Well, Mizuno is back after having overcome health concerns and the 2015 date has been scrapped in favor of a 2018 as result of the lost time in the wake of Mizuno’s absence.

2013 Nissan GT-R Facelift

Possible interpretation of the 2013 Nissan GT-R based off the Nissan GT-R Club Race Edition

With their new date set for 2018, the conservative timeline will provide Mizuno plenty of time to get back in to the swing of things with his trusted team and move forward with the vehicle’s revitalization. Most importantly, too, is that this news means that Mizuno–one of the world’s greatest automotive development minds–is healthy and has overcome his personal health issues. In fact, Mizuno was healthy enough to make the trip to Germany recently and be involved with the mechanical side of the Nissan team’s class victorious effort at the renowned 24 Hours of Nürburgring event.

2013 Nissan GT-R Facelift

Possible interpretation of the 2013 Nissan GT-R based off the Nissan GT-R Club Race Edition

The other reason for the delay was result of Nissan’s insistence on keeping their current generation GT-R up to par. This means that a number of resources are being applied towards the current generation to provide the 2013 model with a complete facelift and improved performance via more involved electronics, in an effort to the keep vehicle competitive with new Porsche models as it enters in to its 6th year of production.

While exact details of the facelift and new model year revamping haven’t been officially announced, what has been stated is Nissan’s desire to closely follow and react to the new Acura NSX model’s performance. The NSX is a long recognized super car returning to production in 2013, where it will certainly regain its place alongside Ferrari and Porsche as a truly viable entrance point in to the supercar market. However, the NSX is doing things a little differently.

Similar to the Lexus LFA, the NSX will also feature a hybrid electric/gas engine to increase low end torque numbers and pair them with high RPM HP numbers. This insistence by Mizuno and his Nissan team has lead many to speculation that a turbocharged hybrid engine may be in the future for the GT-R as well. With increasing fuel efficiency standards across the globe, a change of this nature seems both likely and ideal too.

2013 Nissan GT-R Club Track Edition

2013 Nissan GT-R Club Track Edition

Now, it’s known that many performance enthusiasts release collective groans when they hear the word “hybrid” attached to their beloved super car market, but, the hybrid configuration does allow for a lot of performance gains as well. Chief amongst these gains is the torque delivery that an electric engine offers. Because of the change in power access and delivery, hybrid electric engines are able to deliver 100% of the electric engine’s torque from a stand-still. Coupling a torque delivery like this–something in line with 100-150 torque from zero RPMs is absolutely plausible in an electric hybrid engine–with the GT-R’s amazing all-wheel drive system will result in some of the most impressive off the line acceleration numbers anyone has ever seen. Switching from 100% electric to 100% gas as the vehicle goes up through the RPM band will result in the engine being able to access its turbocharger reserves for increased horsepower at higher speeds, once the need for torque has dissipated. In all, a well-designed hybrid AWD GT-R could easily offset the increased weight issue associated with a hybrid engine and deliver even more impressive performance than ever before.

2013 Nissan GT-R Club Track Edition

2013 Nissan GT-R Club Track Edition

As for the 2013 facelift in store for the GT-R, exact specifications are, as of yet, unknown. Nissan has stated that the primary body panels will remain largely unchanged, which has lead to speculation in changes over the following vehicle aspects: under body aerodynamics aspects such as front splitter and rear diffuser, lights and markers, and interior. Of these three, changes to the interior–bringing it closer to the Porsche and Audi luxury standard–seem the most likely to drive sales, while those which may improve downforce and drag coefficient numbers–i.e. changes to the aerodynamic component pieces–seem the most likely to help the GT-R set new benchmark track times across the globe. The recently utilized GT-R R35 from the prior mentioned 24 hours of Nürburgring utilized a new, upgraded, integrated front air dam with enhanced air dam brace. Considering how close that race’s iteration of the GT-R was to a production model, there’s a definite possibility that the 2013 model could also find itself equipped with this more aggressive front wind splitting device.

Nissan GT-R at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring Event

Nissan GT-R at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring Event

Here are a few excerpts from Mizuno following the 24 Hours of Nürburgring event, some of which is very telling. Ultimately, it lends itself to the belief that Nissan will continue improving the GT-R until they release next generation and will maintain a strong dedication to performance above all else with their flagship automobile:

Nissan GT-R at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring Event

Nissan GT-R at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring Event

“There are two major reasons for entering in this 24-hour race: First of all, after the debut in 2007, this vehicle has been evolving year after year. By changing it to a racing specification to be implemented in the future, no matter what kind of super high performance feature or a new version is developed in the next five years, the durability and reliability in varying conditions can be verified in this race. I would like to make a promise that all this will be reflected in future GT-Rs.

“Secondly, since we debuted this vehicle in 2007, customers have asked me time and time again, how their vehicle would perform if they were to race their own vehicles. Therefore, we are using a vehicle similar to those of our customers, we are not using a car with racing modifications.

“By racing in a vehicle with similar and more evolved specifications as our customers’ GT-R, we respond to the expectations of our customers. For this race, we developed forged calipers, aerodynamic parts and other various components. I would like to make a promise that all this will be reflected in future GT-Rs, and will be delivered to our customers.”

                      -Kazutoshi Mizuno

More Info on Hybrid R36

From Insideline:

There has been no end to the rumors of what the Nissan GT-R will become next, but the most credible rumor circulating in Japan right now is that a Nissan GT-R Hybrid is in development. The hybrid Godzilla would be part of the R36 generation of the GT-R. Sources close to the project tell us would likely debut in 2012 as a 2013 model with a pricetag around $100K.

The drivetrain for the 2013 Nissan GT-R Hybrid is expected to be a version of the hybrid system in the upcoming Nissan M35 Hybrid, but with a dramatic power increase and an all-wheel-drive layout. However, instead of a normally aspirated V6, the GT-R Hybrid would use a twin-turbocharged V6 just as the R35-derived Infiniti Essence concept did. It would be the same twin-turbo 3.8-liter V6 (VR38DETT) the GT-R uses today.

The target would be 440 horsepower for the hybrid application (versus 485 on today’s GT-R), with an additional 160 hp coming from the electric motor — the same one used on the Essence.

With 600 hp to go around, the hybrid GT-R would be just as quick as today’s production GT-R, sources tell us. We also hear, though, that serious weight will need to be cut out of the car to offset the addition of the battery pack. And even with that dieting, the GT-R Hybrid is still expected to be heavier than today’s car (3,800 pounds).

Fuel economy, though, is expected to be 25-30 mpg, which of course is the very point of building a Nissan GT-R Hybrid. If achievable in the real world, Nissan would have a convenient rebuttal to pundits who argue that supercars (and more generally, fun cars) will lose their relevance in the coming green era. — Mak Tokuyama, reporting from Japan


Next Gen GT-R, Possibly a 600-HP Hybrid Godzilla?

Word from Japan indicates that the next generation Nissan GT-R could be a hybrid sports car.

Buzz is circulating the internet right now that there’s a possibility that the next generation of Nissan GT-R will be powered by a 440HP gas engine coupled with a 160HP electric motor. The combination of the two means, in theory, that the vehicle will be a 600 HP monster that is both a great performer as well as a more fuel efficient vehicle. This is all comes from Japanese automotive magazine Best Car.

I have no doubts that whatever the next gen of GT-R is, it will be awesome.

I have no doubts that whatever the next gen of GT-R is, it will be awesome.

There is also mention that it could be scaled down to near Honda CR-Z proportions in order to improve overall performance and efficiency.

More details will surely come, so stay tuned.

Source: MotorTrend

R-36 is greenlighted and set to arrive 2013!

‘Evolutionary’ R36 should be with us by 2013

Nissan has reconfirmed its commitment to an ongoing GT-R development programme, with a model replacement cycle in place that should see an R36 hit the streets by 2013 at the latest.

Current R35 will be replaced around 2013

PistonHeads was at Nissan’s Nurburgring Technical Centre earlier this week, when VP of global product planning Andy Palmer paid a flying visit to show his support for the GT-R programme lead by Kazutoshi Mizuno.It was Andy’s first meeting with the Japanese GT-R ‘away team’ at the Nurburgring and, speaking informally to the assembled engineers and support staff, he spoke warmly of their achievements and reaffirmed Nissan’s commitment to the GT-R project.

“These are very hard times and, as you know, we have had to make cuts to many programmes,’ he told the team. ‘However, it is very important to Nissan that we remain able to offer a diverse range of vehicles from electric cars, to LCVs and the GT-R and we continue to fully support the work you are doing here.”

Speaking to PH later on – while waiting for a rapid ride around the Nurburgring circuit in a Spec-V development car – Andy confirmed that a model replacement programme was still in place in spite of the economic downturn, based on a roughly similar timescale to the Porsche replacement cycle.With the 911 GT2 being the car Nissan likes to benchmark, that puts a lifespan of 5-6 years on the current R35 – according to our rudimentary maths.

Unsurprisingly, Andy also confirmed to us that the next-generation GT-R will be an evolution of the current platform, and will therefore retain the twin-turbocharged V6 and rear transaxle configuration.

“In that respect, it’s not going to be a massive one-off investment,” Palmer told PH. “It’s more a case of putting a bit of money into the programme every year, to make sure we keep the GT-R where it needs to be.”

Author: Chris-R
Source: PistonHeads
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